Is there a 30 to 50-amp transformer?
Can you add a transformer to a 30-amp outlet to step it up to 50-amps for an RV?
Hey Mike,
I have a question from a customer. Do they make a step up transformer to convert 30-amps from a pedestal to a 50-amp RV?
My Answer
You can get a rather heavy and expensive 120-volt to 240-volt step-up transformer that will convert the voltage. But by boosting the voltage by a factor of 2:1, the 30-amps of current from the pedestal would drop by 1/2 to only be 15-amps at the RV. It’s all about the watts, and there’s no way to make more watts out of thin air.
The numbers
You can only get 3,600 watts from a 30-amp outlet because 30 amps x 120 volts = 3,600 watts. But a 50-amp pedestal outlet can provide up to 12,000-watts of power because there are 2 legs of 120 volts at 50-amps of current per leg. So 50 amps x 120 volts = 6,000 watts per leg, and 6,000 watts x 2 legs = 12,000 watts of total power.
You want more power, but…
Transformers behave like transmissions in a car or truck where RPM is traded for torque. So, for example in first gear if the engine RPM is stepped down to one third by a 1:3 gear ratio, its torque is tripled by the 3:1 inverse ratio.
That’s why in first gear your car will have a lot more pulling power (think amps) but less speed (think voltage). You’re not making more horsepower, in low gear the transmission is trading speed for torque. The opposite happens on overdrive where the driveshaft RPM is increased with respect to the engine speed with loss of torque at the inverse ratio.
Let’s transform it…
The same thing occurs with a transformer. If you use it to double the voltage from 120 to 240 volts AC (a 2:1 ratio) the amperes of current will be halved (a 1:2 inverse ratio). But because Volts x Amps = Watts, you still have the same watts going into the transformer that are coming out. So 30 amps at 120 volts = 3,600 watts, and 15 amps at 240 volts = 3,600 watts. Watts is watts, as I like to say!
Yes, I have a 120-volt to 240-volt step up transformer under my desk…
But my test transformer weighs 30 lbs and is just 1.5kVA (1,500 watts), so it's less than half the size of what would be needed for a 30-amp pedestal connection. And even then a 3.6kVA transformer could only provide 15 amps of current at 240-volts, and never be able to supply the 50-amps per leg (100-amps total at 120 volts) needed to fully power an RV with a 50-amp shore power line. That would require a 12kVA step-up transformer powered by a 100-amp, 120-volt circuit breaker. Yikes! 😁
Final analyses
You can’t use a transformer to boost wattage, it can only boost or cut voltage with an inverse change in the available amperage.
”There’s no such thing as a free lunch.” Robert A. Heinlein
Let’s play safe out there…. Mike Sokol
If you have a decent battery/inverter set up, you can put in a 50 amp RV panel and connect shore power to one side of it and the inverter to the other side of it. You would have to isolate the neutrals. The shore power side could feed the AC unit and the converter/ battery charger while the inverter side feeds all other ac stuff (water heater, refer, microwave). The charger would recharge the batteries as needed. You could have 50-60 amps total, depending on the inverter size.
So, how does this explanation of how a transformer works apply to the Hughes Autoformer? Isn't that basically a transformer. I know you've been testing an Autoformer in the past year or so, & I have used both a 50 amp & 30 amp Autoformer in my rvs over the years.