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Mike Sokol's avatar

Propane has the energy density to do this.

Here are my calculations of how many batteries equal the energy of a 20 lb tank of propane, just in case you want to win a bar bet!

1 Gallon of Propane = ~27 kWh (Kilowatt Hours) of electrical energy

So 4.7 Gallons of Propane = 127 kWh of electrical energy

A 100Ah battery x 12.5 volts = 1.25 kWh of energy

So 127kWh / 1.25kWh = 101 Lithium batteries that can be discharged to 0% SoC

Or 202 Lead Acid batteries that should only be discharged to 50% SoC

How much does all of this weigh?

One 100Ah Lithium battery weighs around 30 lbs.

So 101 Lithium batteries would weigh 30 x 101 = 3,030 lbs.

One 100Ah Deep Cycle Lead-Acid battery weighs around 70 lbs.

So 202 Lead-Acid batteries would weigh 70 x 202 = 14,140 lbs.

A 5-gallon propane tank with the same amount of energy weighs 35.8 lbs.

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BOB Garbe's avatar

This is a great debunk analyse and for those that still are thinking of trying this an even more rigorous view includes the following addition considerations.

1. Cold weather is synonomouse with low sun angles and thus 300 watthours a day is probably wildly optimistic, more like 150 WH for panel mounted flat on an RV room.

2. The duty cycle for these tank heaters are typically on at 45 degrees and off at 60 degrees (tank temperature) which essentially means a 100 % duty cycle in all practical purposes, so there you go.

It would take a massive solar system to keep up with this demand... Maybe adding as auto start to a generator and a big charger would be an answer, but unattended would not be a very great idea. Better would be to minimize water use, use a composting toilet and haul the water bock and forth.

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